“Only idealism – the contemplation of life through the idea of the spirit, through the idea of divinity and religion – can explain art”

… this quote is showing the arena of art, it is beautiful, and it is obvious to me that these areas are exactly the places science cannot yet let itself explore …

…. but will eventually have to, if it does not wish to be seen as an archaic side-street on the path of human fultillment ..

maybe this is enough, or maybe i need to make a blogpost to expand the idea …

and i realize that “scientists” come in many varieties, not just the close-minded ones i encountered on friendfeed ..

a note to damyon balser, #3 above … substitute the word meditation for the word research, your sentence would still work …

enjoy, gregory lent

Some scientists aren’t simply interested in such topics, some have a mechanistic view of a human, some others have tried to discuss such topics but have found people like Deepak Chopra (or other salesman with small understanding of the world), and finally there are scientists that found the right people to talk with, have a good understanding of what’s happening, but are afraid to speak about it loudly (science is a club, as you’ve noticed). If you spend some time reading answers to Edge 2009 question ( http://www.edge.org/q2009/q09_index.html ), you will find examples from each group.

There’s also an issue of areas of science. “Subjectivity” has been a subject of numerous intriguing studies by psychologists – unfortunately, I haven’t seen their findings affecting mainstream life sciences.

Surprisingly quite a lot of scientists has a deep interest in art (many of them are musicians on a side), but rarely try to step back and see both sides of their creativity at the same time. Mergers of science and art do not seem to work well, so I hope stepping back will give a better perspective.

Anyway, it’s a long list of issues I haven’t yet fully grasped. I hope to learn a lot along the way.

I’ve already seen you web page and I’ve watched a video summarizing a week with you working on some art piece. You do absolutely fascinating stuff.

the holistic understanding of science, of reality, is extremely important now … science is very poorly placed even to ask the necessary questions, let alone contribute to understanding … and oh-my-god, they might have to look at the “subjective” and then game over ..

i have been in the company of many gurus and yogis who completely understand science, and never met a scientist who understood a thing about consciousness, or “reality” ….. whose is the more limited viewpoint then?

i would never ask a scientist about mind, they are so primitive compared to yogis ….

as to art, that is a good step, you are on your way to wholeness ….

my art is here, http://www.gregorylent.com … dealing with issues you may be interested in, such as transformation …

enjoy, glad to see your expansion in scope..

enjoy, gregory lent