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		<title>By: Timothy Edwards</title>
		<link>http://freelancingscience.com/2007/11/27/software-portability-and-virtual-appliances/#comment-309</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Edwards]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with nsaunders on BioKnoppix...I&#039;m kinda new to this stuff but I&#039;m definitely a fan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with nsaunders on BioKnoppix&#8230;I&#8217;m kinda new to this stuff but I&#8217;m definitely a fan.</p>
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		<title>By: freesci</title>
		<link>http://freelancingscience.com/2007/11/27/software-portability-and-virtual-appliances/#comment-185</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[freesci]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hanif, thanks for pointing to Knime - I wasn&#039;t aware of that. 

Animesh - I don&#039;t do large scale analysis anymore, so my computing needs are pretty small. But of course I wouldn&#039;t run the whole genome analysis on my desktop computer anyway. Virtualization, from the end user point of view, removes some overhead of running software at all. If speed is an issue, maybe virtualization similar to AWS/S3 services would become more popular? :)

Asif, thanks for the information about these Bio-LiveCDs. As I said, both solution have their advantages, and they complement each other. Can you comment on scalability of LiveCD solution? Does it require remastering of the CD?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hanif, thanks for pointing to Knime &#8211; I wasn&#8217;t aware of that. </p>
<p>Animesh &#8211; I don&#8217;t do large scale analysis anymore, so my computing needs are pretty small. But of course I wouldn&#8217;t run the whole genome analysis on my desktop computer anyway. Virtualization, from the end user point of view, removes some overhead of running software at all. If speed is an issue, maybe virtualization similar to AWS/S3 services would become more popular? <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Asif, thanks for the information about these Bio-LiveCDs. As I said, both solution have their advantages, and they complement each other. Can you comment on scalability of LiveCD solution? Does it require remastering of the CD?</p>
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		<title>By: Asif M. Khan</title>
		<link>http://freelancingscience.com/2007/11/27/software-portability-and-virtual-appliances/#comment-175</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Asif M. Khan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 21:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our lab has constructed the APBioKnoppix software (http://opensource.nus.edu.sg/wiki/index.php/APBioKnoppix) and set up a second generation liveCD system, BioSLAX (http://www.bioslax.com/), to facilitate bioinformatics software usage. Both APBioKnoppix3, a remaster of the popular Knoppix (specifically version 5.01), and BioSLAX, a new live CD suite of bioinformatics tools, have since been deployed in the use of teaching and training (international conference tutorials/workshops, practical courses offered by the S* Life Science Informatics Alliance (www.s-star.org), and undergraduate courses offered by the National University of Singapore (&gt;500 students a year)). Distribution of the liveCD systems (as bootable CDs or their ISO images, ~700Mb) is free to educational institutions and so far has been done via http, ftp, BitTorrent p2p and physical CD. Given the bandwidth constraints in developing countries with low-bandwidth, distribution by BitTorrent p2p and physical CD has been the preferred option.

With regards to the “Bio IT” specialist, the server versions of our liveCD systems enable one to set up a fully operational bioinformatics node within half a day on a system with large capacity hard disks, such as a system with two 500Gbyte hard disks, which are relatively cheap nowdays, ~USD1,000). We recently set up such a server in Vietnam at the Institute of Biotechnology, Hanoi, as part of our workshop funded by UNESCO-IUBMB-FAOBMB (http://incob.apbionet.org/incob07/hanoi.shtml). With these portable and scalable systems, it is now easy to set-up bioinformatics labs, fully equipped with LAMP, Mediawiki and more than 200 freely available bioinformatics software. New software packages can always be made available by remastering the liveCD systems.

LiveCDs (or perhaps LiveThumbdrives in the future) may be the way to go forward :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our lab has constructed the APBioKnoppix software (<a href="http://opensource.nus.edu.sg/wiki/index.php/APBioKnoppix" rel="nofollow">http://opensource.nus.edu.sg/wiki/index.php/APBioKnoppix</a>) and set up a second generation liveCD system, BioSLAX (<a href="http://www.bioslax.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bioslax.com/</a>), to facilitate bioinformatics software usage. Both APBioKnoppix3, a remaster of the popular Knoppix (specifically version 5.01), and BioSLAX, a new live CD suite of bioinformatics tools, have since been deployed in the use of teaching and training (international conference tutorials/workshops, practical courses offered by the S* Life Science Informatics Alliance (www.s-star.org), and undergraduate courses offered by the National University of Singapore (&gt;500 students a year)). Distribution of the liveCD systems (as bootable CDs or their ISO images, ~700Mb) is free to educational institutions and so far has been done via http, ftp, BitTorrent p2p and physical CD. Given the bandwidth constraints in developing countries with low-bandwidth, distribution by BitTorrent p2p and physical CD has been the preferred option.</p>
<p>With regards to the “Bio IT” specialist, the server versions of our liveCD systems enable one to set up a fully operational bioinformatics node within half a day on a system with large capacity hard disks, such as a system with two 500Gbyte hard disks, which are relatively cheap nowdays, ~USD1,000). We recently set up such a server in Vietnam at the Institute of Biotechnology, Hanoi, as part of our workshop funded by UNESCO-IUBMB-FAOBMB (<a href="http://incob.apbionet.org/incob07/hanoi.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://incob.apbionet.org/incob07/hanoi.shtml</a>). With these portable and scalable systems, it is now easy to set-up bioinformatics labs, fully equipped with LAMP, Mediawiki and more than 200 freely available bioinformatics software. New software packages can always be made available by remastering the liveCD systems.</p>
<p>LiveCDs (or perhaps LiveThumbdrives in the future) may be the way to go forward <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Animesh Sharma</title>
		<link>http://freelancingscience.com/2007/11/27/software-portability-and-virtual-appliances/#comment-170</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Animesh Sharma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 06:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like Hanif points out, I feel that doing analysis in such high dimension and low sample space (e.g., Microarray) requires some good power (multiple sampling so as to have high probability that we have sampled global minima), especially when one is doing prototyping on real data using high level language such as PERL (to save coding time). I am sure even the people who work on simple mammalian genome comparisons will admit that laptop is not good enough and we have to move in the MapReduce direction, xcore-cluster in general. 
Hope gconsole (google+gdrive+glcuster) comes soon into existence. May be then we can do brute-force searches as well :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Hanif points out, I feel that doing analysis in such high dimension and low sample space (e.g., Microarray) requires some good power (multiple sampling so as to have high probability that we have sampled global minima), especially when one is doing prototyping on real data using high level language such as PERL (to save coding time). I am sure even the people who work on simple mammalian genome comparisons will admit that laptop is not good enough and we have to move in the MapReduce direction, xcore-cluster in general.<br />
Hope gconsole (google+gdrive+glcuster) comes soon into existence. May be then we can do brute-force searches as well <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Open Source News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Software portability and virtual appliances</title>
		<link>http://freelancingscience.com/2007/11/27/software-portability-and-virtual-appliances/#comment-162</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Open Source News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Software portability and virtual appliances]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 03:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] EMBOSS, Pymol, BioPerl and Biopython. Since VMWare server is free (although registration is &#8230; http://freesci.wordpress.com/2007/11/27/software-portability-and-virtual-appliances/ Freelancing science [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] EMBOSS, Pymol, BioPerl and Biopython. Since VMWare server is free (although registration is &#8230; <a href="http://freesci.wordpress.com/2007/11/27/software-portability-and-virtual-appliances/" rel="nofollow">http://freesci.wordpress.com/2007/11/27/software-portability-and-virtual-appliances/</a> Freelancing science [...]</p>
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		<title>By: hanif</title>
		<link>http://freelancingscience.com/2007/11/27/software-portability-and-virtual-appliances/#comment-161</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hanif]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most of my time is spent on the boundary between genomic data analysis and &quot;Bio IT&quot; (munging data and building tools aplenty).

I recently spent some time reading up on recent developments in distributed scientific computing - not quite the same issue as &quot;getting everything to run everywhere&quot;, but more like &quot;being able to run lots of things faster more easily&quot;.

In that respect, there are a number of packages that seem similar to Taverna, like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.knime.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Knime&lt;/a&gt; and running MapReduce-transformed algorithms on &lt;a href=&quot;http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/entry.jspa?externalID=873&amp;categoryID=112&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Amazon Web Services&lt;/a&gt;.  The latter is basically a way of accessing a cloud cheaply without buying any hardware.  Maybe there should be a community-driven project implementing Emboss in Knime on AWS...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of my time is spent on the boundary between genomic data analysis and &#8220;Bio IT&#8221; (munging data and building tools aplenty).</p>
<p>I recently spent some time reading up on recent developments in distributed scientific computing &#8211; not quite the same issue as &#8220;getting everything to run everywhere&#8221;, but more like &#8220;being able to run lots of things faster more easily&#8221;.</p>
<p>In that respect, there are a number of packages that seem similar to Taverna, like <a href="http://www.knime.org" rel="nofollow">Knime</a> and running MapReduce-transformed algorithms on <a href="http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/entry.jspa?externalID=873&amp;categoryID=112" rel="nofollow">Amazon Web Services</a>.  The latter is basically a way of accessing a cloud cheaply without buying any hardware.  Maybe there should be a community-driven project implementing Emboss in Knime on AWS&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: lazy</title>
		<link>http://freelancingscience.com/2007/11/27/software-portability-and-virtual-appliances/#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lazy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like to use bioinformatics platform that contains many essential bioinformatics applications such as Biomatters&#039; Geneious Pro. 

Sequence Alignment
BLAST
Phylogenetic Tree Building
Primers Design
Motifs and ORFs
Restriction analysis
Sequence editing 
interactively view 3D molecular structures
restriction analysis
etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like to use bioinformatics platform that contains many essential bioinformatics applications such as Biomatters&#8217; Geneious Pro. </p>
<p>Sequence Alignment<br />
BLAST<br />
Phylogenetic Tree Building<br />
Primers Design<br />
Motifs and ORFs<br />
Restriction analysis<br />
Sequence editing<br />
interactively view 3D molecular structures<br />
restriction analysis<br />
etc.</p>
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		<title>By: freesci</title>
		<link>http://freelancingscience.com/2007/11/27/software-portability-and-virtual-appliances/#comment-158</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[freesci]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good point Neil, I forgot about LiveCDs. Of course both solutions have their advantages and disadvantages...

Concerning BioIT - I did think about similar approach, but I couldn&#039;t name it so well, as you did. Hiring technical personel is already a fact in experimental biology, so maybe it&#039;s time to do the same in biology in silico? So far I didn&#039;t hear about such case...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point Neil, I forgot about LiveCDs. Of course both solutions have their advantages and disadvantages&#8230;</p>
<p>Concerning BioIT &#8211; I did think about similar approach, but I couldn&#8217;t name it so well, as you did. Hiring technical personel is already a fact in experimental biology, so maybe it&#8217;s time to do the same in biology in silico? So far I didn&#8217;t hear about such case&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nsaunders</title>
		<link>http://freelancingscience.com/2007/11/27/software-portability-and-virtual-appliances/#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nsaunders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suppose the only comparable service is &lt;a href=&quot;http://bioknoppix.hpcf.upr.edu/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BioKnoppix&lt;/a&gt; - basically a live Knoppix CD with a bunch of bioinformatics apps.

I&#039;d also like to see the day when we all use workflows and clouds, but I suspect it&#039;s still a long way off.  Let&#039;s face it, convincing many biologists to learn how to use a new computing resource of any kind is difficult.  I&#039;ve always felt that the most effective solution is for every academic department to employ a &quot;Bio IT&quot; specialist - someone who provides IT support but aimed specifically at bioinformatics.  Give them a few cheap servers, let them install whatever local resources people need and make sure that people know what they offer and where to find them.  Need a custom BioPerl script, a local BLAST database, a Pise interface to a software package?  Go to the Bio IT person.  Might even convince a few researchers to extend their computing skills.  Any kind of &quot;one size fits all&quot; solution to Bio IT needs is sure to be deficient in some way to some person with some problem, IMHO.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose the only comparable service is <a href="http://bioknoppix.hpcf.upr.edu/" rel="nofollow">BioKnoppix</a> &#8211; basically a live Knoppix CD with a bunch of bioinformatics apps.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to see the day when we all use workflows and clouds, but I suspect it&#8217;s still a long way off.  Let&#8217;s face it, convincing many biologists to learn how to use a new computing resource of any kind is difficult.  I&#8217;ve always felt that the most effective solution is for every academic department to employ a &#8220;Bio IT&#8221; specialist &#8211; someone who provides IT support but aimed specifically at bioinformatics.  Give them a few cheap servers, let them install whatever local resources people need and make sure that people know what they offer and where to find them.  Need a custom BioPerl script, a local BLAST database, a Pise interface to a software package?  Go to the Bio IT person.  Might even convince a few researchers to extend their computing skills.  Any kind of &#8220;one size fits all&#8221; solution to Bio IT needs is sure to be deficient in some way to some person with some problem, IMHO.</p>
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